How To Hire Your Dream Team The Right Way With Jackie Koch


Hiring the right people for your business can be super tricky. But don’t worry, I’ve got you covered! I’m excited to welcome the amazing Jackie Koch to the show to share everything you need to know about recruiting and building your dream team. Jackie has so much experience in people’s operations and building a thriving culture for your business. Jackie is also the founder of People Principles and hosts the “Oh, Sh!t! I’M the boss now?!” podcast.

In our conversation, we discuss the do’s and don’ts of HR to help you avoid unexpected costs, legal battles, or upset employees. Jackie also shares her own journey from working at other companies to working for herself. Whether you’re a small business owner, a manager, a leader, or a solopreneur, this episode is packed with tools to help you stay out of trouble and scale your business!


Episode Timeline & Discussion Questions:

(1:05) Welcome back to The Chris Harder Show. Today, Chris is joined by Jackie Koch.

(6:36) Chris asks Jackie, “A cautionary tale to everyone listening that is a small business owner, a manager, a leader, a solopreneur, that’s about to make their first hire or two.” 

(13:14) Chris asks Jackie, “Paint your picture of where all this education and experience came from?”

(16:51) Chris asks Jackie, “Talk about your journey from going from always working for some other founder to finally starting your own business.”

(20:06) Chris asks Jackie, “How did you acquire customers?”

(22:19) Jackie highlights the importance of not overtitling employees. 

(23:58) Jackie discusses how to pay an employee a salary. 

(29:45) Jackie talks about having documented contracts, performance reviews, NDAs, etc.

(34:00) Chris asks Jackie, “Give us insight that will help us hire the right people.” 

(37:20) Chris asks Jackie, “You’ve created a kind of a checklist and a stay out of trouble tool. Can you share that?”

(45:43) Chris asks listeners to share the podcast and leave a 5-star review.

In order to qualify to be paid a salary, you don't get to just decide that as the business owner. The government and the IRS decide.

You’re Going To Hear About:

  • Why you need to address any HR issues at the start of your business 
  • The importance of documentation, contracts, and performance reviews 
  • How Jackie started her own business and acquired customers 
  • Tips for correctly titling and paying your employees 
  • The most common mistakes Jackie sees when hiring 
  • Best practices for small businesses to stay in HR compliance

Resources Mentioned:

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  • Grab your seat at The Dinner Series HERE
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